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- From: Stephen Usher <Stephen.Usher@earth.ox.ac.uk>
- Subject: Re: MiNT goes UNIX. I hope not.
- Date: Mon, 17 Jan 1994 14:49:37 +0000 (GMT)
- In-Reply-To: <199401171253.AA17112@ruulot.let.ruu.nl> from "Annius Groenink" at Jan 17, 94 01:53:30 pm
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- >> > > What you are suggesting is to deprive Atari from everything it
- >> > > is special at, and when you've done that, people will tell you they'd
- >> > > rather buy a HP 9000/400 to run your stuff!
- >> >
- >> > Then please tell me what the whole point of MiNT really is?!
- >
- > Well HOPEFULLY it is not purely an attempt to get a LINUX-smell-alike
- > without having to buy a 486?
-
- The original purpose of MiNT was to create an operating system for the Atari
- ST series which was as much like Unix as possible yet be TOS compatible.
- This was stated by Eric Smith way back.. I remember it being said way back
- at version 0.6 at least. This may well have changed by now as Atari jointly
- own MiNT.
-
- It's not going to become a "Linux-smell-alike" as Linux is a totally new OS
- which is Unix-like and not compatable with MSDOS other than with an emulator.
-
- Anyway, what IS so wrong about getting closer to the world's de-facto open
- standard? Surely you should be praising people for trying to bring TOS into
- the main stream of real-world computing.
-
- >> > Reasons may vary, but obviously there're people being interested in it,
- >> > so why not try to make the best out of it?
- >
- > All I'm trying to say here is that MiNT should be something for the Atari,
- > and something which can be recognized as such. So your interpretation of
- > 'making the best out of MiNT' is to make Atari computers behave as similar
- > to UNIX boxes as possible? That's like going from Amsterdam to Paris
- > by the Orient Express if you ask me. Try Atari System V :-)
-
- Atari SYSVr4 is big and expensive, oh and it's SYSVr4.. surely a big iron
- nail in its coffin. :-)
-
- Oh.. I forgot.. Atari canned it in its Beta-test stange, so you can't buy it
- anyway.
-
- >--
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-
- Bringing the filesystem roadmap into a standard can only help people who
- want to run free software from the net as people will only need to download
- binary distributions with standard install scripts.
-
- There will be no more "I downloaded package X but I can't get it working on
- my system" or "which environment variable does this package use to find the
- temporary directory" questions as the paths can be hard-coded. The OS does
- all the fiddly bits of working out which drive /tmp or /var/spool/mail etc
- are on. This is as it should be. Let the OS, not the user, take the strain,
- that's what it's there for.
-
- Steve
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